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#Gnucobol
This is the most interesting post I've read on #COBOL. COBOL is an alternative syntax to Assembler because of how COBOL at a syntax level lets you, makes you deal with memory like Assembler does.
#GnuCobol compiles to C, so GnuCobol is going to have the same paradigm mismatch that OtterCobol ran into.
#gcobol looks like it doesn't not have a c-transpilation layer. But I could be reading the docs wrong.
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@silentexception It writes simple #COBOL fine. Last time I did some side project hacking with LLMs and #gnuCOBOL
- too many dialects, the bot needs to be centered, by some huge system message with what gnucobol supports (you got $$$ for Z/OS time, then hire someone, what are you doing with bots)
- COBOL lacks 3rd party libraries, so it will have to reimplement everything
- gnuCOBOL can't do it all, it will need to switch to C from time to time.
I was using ChatGPT4o, if I tried again, I'd use Gemini because you need huge context windows to ground it in your current dialect, the C interop, and to leave space for all the missing libraries. (and if you don't tell it how to solve a common problem it will solve it 10x, I've seen this with bots and python, 10 different ways to do HTTP calls all over the code base)
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Minecraft Server in #cobol
https://github.com/meyfa/CobolCraft
Surprisingly readable and stays in COBOL most of the time, not too much resorting to C.
I think it deserves more stars.
Ok, it was easier to find modern programming practices for bash than for #GnuCOBOL - maybe it is more fun with the paid versions of COBOL.
- lint? compiler warnings
- unit tests? Sort of? Couldn't get 'em to work
- package management? where?
- "awesome cobol" directory? more like awesome 404s
Now for the same app in #golang
- it is so fast
- syntax is nice
- format, lint, docs are built in
- modules and packages ... they still don't click with my brain
- can implement a richer game for the same effort than cobol or bash (and I'm not even writing the code here)♡ 4 ↻ 1And now for #ruby!
<insert I don't know I'm doing dog here>
I'm convinced I didn't set up a venv correctly and I just installed all the dependencies to the system ruby interpreter.
Everything else was easy and modern feeling.
♡ 1 ↻ 0And now for cpp (pain!) using #clion (nice) and cmake (pain!)
C++ is the COBOL of 2024.
- unpleasant
- still relevant because of legacy code bases
- would be laughed off the stage if introduced todayI couldn't figure out how to run cmake from the terminal. I think I'd have to write a CMakeCache.txt by hand (that finds the toolchain) and not clear it works with git-bash.
♡ 2 ↻ 1Alright, moving along & being more careful about how I tag my posts (It appears a tag means, "I want to fight with strangers, anything critical is actually an insult to you & your ancestors")
**Vanilla Javascript! **
- It is less painful than it was in 2013. Sort of. Took a few tries to get modules right.
- Packaging *a website* is still adhoc
- jest with JS made me miss TypeScript because mocking seemed to just work with TS, but not for vanilla js modules
- live demo!♡ 1 ↻ 0We're up to Angular! The build script is not done, but no one is paying me to finish it,
- Typescript is good. The Vanilla JS people are wrong.
- Bots have a hard time with Angular because it is fundamentally LOTS of pages.
- Feels like the componentization is a lie. All the parts need to know about each other.
- Uh, it is snappy.
- Helps pay the rent and mortgage for people on my team♡ 0 ↻ 0Now for #rustlang
- batteries included (format, lint, package mgmt)
- bot needed two tries get borrowing & ownership right
- wait, what, already done?Unlike a certain other language/build system I won't mention because they'll hound me in the comments...
Rust doesn't feel like you are getting continually punched in the face by a developer that hates you.
After this experiment, 95% of my native coding effort is going into rust & go. (not c/c++). Devex matters, huh.
https://github.com/matthewdeanmartin/isopod_rust/blob/main/isopod_adventure/Makefile
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